Ha, ha, ode bogatstvo za brokerku. Ko bi rekao...
Elem, ponder mi je malo veci od 8k, kupovao i po 9.

http://www.advfn.com/p.php

Evo, ako nekoga zanima da prati trgovanje na svetskim berzama, pravi light show. Registracija je free, a onda idete na monitor, stavite koje akcije/valute hocete da pratite i to je to...

Pa ja bih rekao da su ovi padovi, pre posledica povecane neizvesnosti oko iduce godine. Iduca godina je prelomna za svet, bar je Nemci tako dozivljavaju.

Sto se naseg beleksa tice, svi znamo sto je tu gde jeste i sta da ocekujemo.

Wall Street: VIX indeks straha spušten najniže u 16 meseci
Autor/izvor: SEEbiz
NEW YORK - Dobri podaci s tržišta nekretnina potaknuli su optimizam na američkom tržištu kapitala.

Rast prodaje postojećih kuća u decembru na 6,54 miliona jedinica, najviše od februara 2007. bio je dovoljan signal za kupce. Dow Jones ojačao je 0,46 posto, na 10.462,51 bod, S&P 500 porastao je 0,37 posto, na 1.118,20 bodova dok je ponovno najveći dobitnik bio Nasdaq s rastom od 0,6 posto, na 2.251,17 bodova.

Danas mi je baš delovalo kao da će probiti otpor... Ali ništa! :)

Gajtner: Neće biti drugog talasa krize
Autor: Beta, AP | 23.12.2009. - 12:09

Američki ministar finansija Timoti Gajtner kaže da je administracija predsednika Obame uverena da će sprečiti ponavljanje prošlogodišnje finansijske krize, najteže u proteklih sedam decenija.

"Drugog talasa finansijske krize neće biti," rekao je Gajtner Nacionalnom javnom radiju. "Ne možemo da dozvolimo da zemlja ponovo živi sa rizikom da ćemo imati još jednu seriju događaja kakvu smo imali prošle godne."
Gajtner je odbacio postavku da ozbiljna nova kriza može da izbije iz dugotrajnih problema sa hipotekarnim zajmovina ili iz iznenadnog slabljenja vrednosti dolara.
"Učinićemo sve što je potrebno da bi to sprečili i u potpunosti
smo u stanju da to učinimo," rekao je on.

Svetske berze
Najveće godišnje vrednosti indeksa
Piše: Branislav Jelić

Nasuprot očekivanjima, vodeće svetske berze ostvarile su dobre performanse u završnici 2009. Posle višenedeljnog tapkanja u mestu, vodeći indeksi najvećih svetskih berzi dostigli su najviše godišnje nivoe upravo na kraju godine

U žarkoj želji da godinu završe u optimističkom stilu, često flertujući sa samozaboravom, investitori su radije verovali statističkim pokazateljima koji su naginjali na njihovu proceniteljsku vodenicu, apostrofirajući podatak da su vrednosti indeksa od proleća ojačale 60% i previđajući činjenicu o privrednom rastu od 2,2%, umesto očekivanih 2,8% u trećem kvartalu.

Oslanjajući se na stabilnost ekonomije pod državnim potpornim stubovima, ulagači su pažnju usmerili da sektor nekretnina u kome je zabeležen rast prodaje polovnog stambenog prostora od 7,4% u novembru, što predstavlja najveću stopu rasta još od februara 2007. kada je, uostalom, i pukao hipotekarni kreditni balon. Ova statistika je poslužila investitorima kao osnov za procenu da će rast biti nastavljen i u 2010, kada istekne rok u okviru programa državne pomoći najderutnijim a važnim finansijskim institucijama.

U odsustvu pravih loših vesti, odnosno u kontekstu izveštaja proceniteljske agencije Moody's da je kreditna solventnost Grčke smanjena za “samo” jedan nivo (agencija Standard & Poor's je protekle sedmice grčku kreditnu sposobnost spustila za dve stepenice), berze su nastavile sa rastom vrednosti indeksa. Doduše, uz smanjen obim trgovanja u pretprazničnim danima ali sa povećanom volatilnošću u pozitivnom smeru. Do neke nove procene.

U međuvremenu, dominira optimističko mišljenje analitičara koji uveravaju male ulagače da je sadašnje stanje tržišta osnov za jačanje berze koja anticipira budući ekonomski rast.

Meni deluje da će se opet odbiti... Oblik sveća poslednjih dana deluje kao da neće uspeti da probije otpor!

ide jos 15 ak poena gore, al da li je to uopsre za nas vise i bitno

:D sutra s and p 500 probija otpor sa naj manje 0,7% :D
Pa mi probijamo otpore ali smo pogresili pravac! :lol:

SP probio ponovo 1126, videcemo hoce li ostati iznad na kraju.

Delovalo je da će se odbiti, ali izgleda da je probio... E sad, šta će dalje biti, to niko ne može da zna!

Novi ovogodisnji vrhovi na SP-u i Djihanu!

NO COMMENT!

Baš sam se setio toga kada sam gledao danas SPX... Svaka čast!

Sprott Says S&P 500 Index Will Plunge Below March Low (Update3)

By Matt Walcoff

Dec. 29 (Bloomberg) -- The Standard & Poor’s 500 Index will collapse below its March lows as an expected rebound in economic growth fails to materialize, according to hedge fund manager Eric Sprott.

The Toronto-based money manager, whose Sprott Hedge Fund returned about 496 percent in the past nine years as the S&P 500 lost 32 percent in Canadian dollar terms, said the index’s 66 percent rally since March 9 reflects investors misinterpreting economic data. He’s predicting the gauge will fall 40 percent to below 676.53, the 12-year low reached on March 9.

“We’re in a bear market that will last 15 or 20 years, and we’ve had nine of them,” Sprott, chief executive officer of Sprott Asset Management LP, which oversees C$4.3 billion ($4.09 billion), said in an interview Dec. 18.

Investors in Sprott’s funds have been rewarded by his holdings in gold, which has climbed 48 percent since the S&P 500 peaked in October 2007. The stock has since fallen 28 percent and declined 0.1 percent to 1,126.20 today for its first loss in seven sessions.

Sprott said the Federal Reserve has kept bond yields and interest rates artificially low through its program to buy agency debt and mortgage-backed securities. The central bank expects the securities purchase program to finish by the end of March.

Expiration of the program would reduce demand for fixed- income securities, forcing up bond yields and interest rates and hurting economic growth, Sprott said.

Loss of Faith

Should the Fed renew the programs while the U.S. government continues to run record deficits, investors will lose faith in the U.S. currency, he said.

“If they announce another quantitative easing, trust me, the gold price will go up another 50 bucks that day,” he said. Gold futures fell 0.9 percent today to $1,098.10 an ounce in New York.

Sprott has been bullish in gold and gold stocks, which are used as a hedge against inflation, since at least 2001, when the precious metal was trading below $300 an ounce.

Gold futures have slipped 7.2 percent this month in New York as the U.S. dollar has rebounded on data that signaled a recovery in the U.S. economy.

American payrolls fell by 11,000 in November, the fewest since the recession began, while retail sales gained 1.3 percent, twice the rate forecast in a survey of economists by Bloomberg, according to government reports released this month.

Unjustified Optimism

Sprott says investors have been too eager to see the data as signs of recovery. While the S&P 500 added 0.6 percent on the day of the employment report, a 23rd consecutive month of payroll contraction was no reason for optimism, he said.

“We don’t have employment gains,” he said. “We have less of a decline. That’s a sign of weakness. The data is weak.”

Sprott said gold is the only asset about which he remains positive in the short term. His C$1.42 billion Sprott Canadian Equity Fund -- which is up 23 percent in five months -- has 34 percent of its portfolio in mining stocks and another 39 percent in bullion as of Nov. 30.

He said though he has no target price for the metal he doesn’t think it has reached a ceiling after quadrupling over the past eight years.

“If you get into this thing where you’ve got to keep printing more and more and more, who knows about the price of gold?” he said. “It will be the new currency in due course.”

Growth Potential

Within the mining industry, Sprott prefers companies with smaller market capitalization, which he said have greater potential to grow.

Since last year, Sprott’s firm has become the biggest shareholder of Avion Gold Corp., which mines in Africa, and East Asia Minerals Corp., which explores in Indonesia. Avion is undervalued for its projected 2010 production, he said. According to a Dec. 16 note from analyst Eric Zaunscherb of Canaccord Financial Inc., Avion was trading at 2.9 times its estimated 2010 earnings, compared with a multiple of 10.5 for its peers.

Regarding East Asia Minerals, Sprott said, “I just get the feeling that these guys could find a multi-double-digit-million- ounce property.”

East Asia completed a 2,000-meter, 14-hole drilling program at its largest Indonesian property that Canaccord analyst Wendell Zerb called “encouraging” and indicative of a large zone of gold mineralization. Over the next two quarters, East Asia is to drill 45 more holes at the site and begin drilling in four more locations in the country, Zerb said.

Outside of the gold industry, Sprott owns shares of Wavefront Technology Solutions Inc., a TSX Venture Exchange- listed company whose products are meant to increase oilfield production. Its technology could be used on at least two-thirds of the world’s oil wells, he said.

Sprott, 65, founded his current firm in 2001 after divesting Sprott Securities, now Cormark Securities Inc., to its employees.

To contact the reporter on this story: Matt Walcoff in Toronto at mwalcoff1@bloomberg.net.
Last Updated: December 29, 2009 16:53 EST

One Pro's Argument for the Dow's Return to 14,000
GENE MARCIAL Posted 1:30 PM 12/29/09 Technology, Columns, Investing, Healthcare, Microsoft, United Health
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After a rambunctious 50% run-up since March, could the Dow Jones Industrial Average still have the spark and energy keep such an ambitious advance going?

As investors try to peer ahead into 2010, one nagging question for the charging bulls is whether they'll ever see the Dow again at 14,164.53. That's the magic number representing its all-time high of Oct. 9, 2007 -- the days of what Alan Greenspan termed "irrational exuberance."

The Dow didn't stay there for very long, of course. And by Dec. 1, 2008, the 30-stock component index had plunged 679 points, to a closing low of 8,149.09, amid an unprecedented financial meltdown and the worst recession the nation has experienced in more than 30 years. But the market's rebound has been fast and furious: Since hitting that low, the Dow has bounced back with a vengeance, closing on Dec. 28, 2009 at 10,547.

Still, that's a long way -- about 35% -- below 14,000. But some folks think the Dow has a chance to retake that high ground -- and they're not just casual commentators or loony TV talking heads. Some preeminent investment industry pros are among their number.

Such as Robert Doll of BlackRock. "We will hit 14,000, perhaps not in a year, but probably in a couple of years," says Doll, vice chairman and global chief investment officer at BlackRock, one of the world's largest asset management companies, which shepherds $3.2 trillion in assets worldwide.

When Stocks Make Their Move

Of course, a lot has to happen before the market can reach new highs. However, if you know how the market works, perception is often more powerful than reality. That is, when the market perceives that an economic recovery is just graduating to that elusive growth stage, that's when stocks make their move. And when that growth reality sinks in, it's usually too late to catch the rampaging bull.

Doll turned implacably bullish in late August as investors were overcome with fear over the market's relentless downswing. And he isn't wasting any time preparing for the next big bull move even as he anticipates a possibly moderate market rally next year.

What Doll is confident about is that the economic recovery is well in place. He believes investors need to get a grip of their fears and invest more in equities.

"We want to invest in risky assets, and so we are overweight in equities in our portfolios and underweight in cash," says Doll. His view is that the macroeconomic picture indicates "growth will be above-trend, and will be better than many expect. We will see real yearly GDP growth of 3% to 5% next year."

The Threats to Strong Growth

The government's "record massive fiscal and monetary stimuli are likely to eventually turn the U.S. and global economies around before the deleveraging forces promoting deflation overwhelms us," says Doll.

What could derail such growth, however, is the government's failure to pay more attention to liquidity and looser lending by the banks and credit institutions. He also cautions against excessive government deficit spending that could unnecessarily boost interest rates. High joblessness could also undermine the recovery. But Doll expects that the unemployment rate will start falling back as companies begin their own recovery phase.

In fact, Doll is most encouraged about how "lean and mean" U.S. companies have become. This gives him confidence that they'll deliver earnings and results that will exceed analysts' estimates. And to keep growing, businesses will have to start hiring again.

Where the Opportunities Could Be

Getting down to specifics, two sectors that Doll believes show promise and opportunity are health care and technology.

He says even as controversial as health care reform has been, the new legislation, if approved, would be a boon to health care providers because more people will have health insurance coverage that would enable them to seek more treatment and create more demand for care.

Technology, Doll believes, will continue to power innovation and produce new products that will lead Corporate America and the economy to greater heights.

His top choice in health care is United Healthcare (UNH), a diversified provider of health care services, currently trading at $32 a share. It's one of the best bets for long-term growth in the industry, says Doll. The stock is cheap at 10 times his estimated 2009 earnings of $3.10 a share, he figures. It deserves to trade at a price-earnings ratio of 13, which implies a price of $40 a share, he says. United Healthcare earned $2.95 in 2008.

In the tech sector. Doll's top pick is giant Microsoft (MSFT), which has retained its dominance in the software world. Its products, he says, will gain significantly from the next computer updating and refreshing cycle, and the consequent migration to the Windows 7 operating platform. Now trading at $29 a share, Doll figures Microsoft will hit the upper $30s in a year based on his estimated earnings of $1.80 to $1.85 in fiscal 2010 ending June 30, vs. $1.70 in fiscal 2009.

"The U.S. Will Outperform Europe"

Looking at how much has transpired in the stock market, Doll notes that the bottoming process started in October 2008. He is convinced the U.S. is the first place where investors should look for opportunities, followed by the emerging countries. "The U.S. [markets] will outperform Europe, and the emerging markets will outperform those in the developed nations," observes Doll.

If Doll is right and if the Dow is indeed headed back toward 14,000 again, this might be just the time for investors to look forward and put their money back to work.

Ovo je u stvari najgori period, kada razni strucnjaci sa jedne strane tvrde da ce biti velikog pada, a sa druge da ce biti velikog rasta.

Pa oni se svi prepucavaju još od letos. Ali koliko je verovati "stručnjacima" kad ih je većina prognozirala dow bar na 15k u 2008. a Peteru Schiffu su se smejali u sred TV emisija...

Iza nas je loša decenija što se tiče berzi. Američki investitori su u proseku izgubili oko 10% u prošloj deceniji, a 30% ako se uračuna i inflacija.

Na slici dole su najbolje investicije u protekloj deceniji (sa leve strane) i neke od najpopularnijih akcija eksperata (sa desne strane).

Kao što vidite, najbolja investicija bi vam donela prinos od 5.750% :D

a mi na velevarmu uzimamo po 100% za par dana neka dodju na skolovanje ovde :D

Lepo je krenulo u Novoj pa cisto da ostane zabelezeno. Ukratko, vrhove su probili:
Tokio
Engleski FTSE
Francuski CAC
Nemacki DAX
Kanada
Brazil
Argentina
DOW JONES
NASDAQ
S^P

Da lepo su startovali u novoj.
North/Latin America
INDEX VALUE CHANGE %CHANGE TIME DOW JONES INDUS. AVG 10,583.96 155.91 1.50% 16:30
S&P 500 INDEX 1,132.99 17.89 1.60% 16:36
NASDAQ COMPOSITE INDEX 2,308.42 39.27 1.73% 16:51
S&P/TSX COMPOSITE INDEX 11,866.90 120.79 1.03% 16:52
MEXICO BOLSA INDEX 32,758.53 638.06 1.99% 16:05
BRAZIL BOVESPA STOCK IDX 70,045.08 1,456.67 2.12% 15:17
More North/Latin America Indexes


Europe/Africa/Middle East
INDEX VALUE CHANGE %CHANGE TIME DJ EURO STOXX 50 € Pr 3,017.80 51.56 1.74% 13:00
FTSE 100 INDEX 5,500.34 87.46 1.62% 11:35
CAC 40 INDEX 4,013.97 77.64 1.97% 12:13
DAX INDEX 6,048.30 90.87 1.53% 14:30
IBEX 35 INDEX 12,145.10 205.10 1.72% 11:35
FTSE MIB Index 23,545.02 296.63 1.28% 11:30
AEX-Index 343.03 7.70 2.30% 12:08
OMX STOCKHOLM 30 INDEX 963.56 11.84 1.24% 11:40
SWISS MARKET INDEX 6,631.44 85.53 1.31% 11:32
More Europe/Africa/Middle East Indexes


Asia/Pacific
INDEX VALUE CHANGE %CHANGE TIME NIKKEI 225 10,654.79 108.35 1.03% 01/04
HANG SENG INDEX 21,823.28 -49.22 -0.23% 03:01
S&P/ASX 200 INDEX 4,876.30 5.70 0.12% 01/04

Jel zna neko kada izlazi INTC ne mogu nigde da nadjem (oko koliko sati?)

Izasao, prihod 10.6 milijardi u odnosu na 10.2 ocekivanih .

ESTIMATED/ACTUAL EPS
0.34 / 0.55

dosta jako...

Ovo je već smešno...
Juče se čekao Intel, pa su Ameri (i naravno Evropa) bili u plusu.
Onda je došao Intel sa ODLIČNIM rezultatima, a Ameri su danas u minusu navodno zbog JPMorgana (a sa njima i Evropa ohoho).

Meni to njihovo kretanje deluje potpuno haotično. Kada krene da pada, onda se nađe par loših vesti koje se ističu, kao zbog toga pada, a kad krene da raste - obrnuto.

A i taj navodni pad zbog loših vesti... Eto danas su u minusu 0,7%, a sutra će opet u plus. Jel će sutra rezultati JPMorgana biti bolji? Ili su danas rezultati Intela lošiji???

I konačno ti rezultati i ostala priča. Ivan2211 me je juče naterao da malo razmišljam o tome... Oni sve gledaju po tome kakva su očekivanja, pa da li je bolje od očekivanja.
A ti ljudi koji daju svoja očekivanja su ljudi koji uzimaju u obzir krizu, gubitke, smanjenje zaposlenosti itd... I naravno daju svoju procenu uzimajući sve to u obzir. I onda kao neka firma premaši ta očekivanja za 2% i to ispada kao dobra vest... Čekaj malo, pa to meni ništa ne znači! Oni su uzeli sve negativno u ozbir i kao nešto očekuju (čitaj: smanjili su očekivanja na minimum) i onda su ta očekivanja premašena i to je kao dobra vest...

Mislim da smo malo izgubili kompas što se tiče očekivanja i da treba redefinisati šta je stvarno uspeh, a šta je samo preživljavanje za vreme krize. Ne znači to da treba paničiti i biti nezadovoljan bilo kakvim uspehom, ali možda treba odrediti neke apsolutne pokazatelje pa se njima voditi...

ameri nisu ni krenuli da rade vec debolo u minus idu!

Tako je Stefane

Kao zakljucak toga mozemo dodati da je tehnicka analiza pravo nadri lekarstvo i tebi ponajmanje pristaje da se time bavis. Pravi pokazatelji bi trebali da budu: zarada, dividende, ocekivanja budicih zarada i buducih dividendi. U sustini mogucnost kompanije da u buducnosti da sto vecu dividendu.
Sve ostalo je spekolacija i to lici na forex.

Ipak T. analiza pretpostavljam moza da bude lep hobi.
Tvoj doprinos ovom forumu je veliki pogotovo u ovim teskim vremenima kada smo svi trebali malo optimizma.

pozdrav


Bolje je imati akcije na grani nego nekretnine u ruci

Sell the news! Probably!
INTC ponire ono bas... a obimi jaki! Obratite paznju prethodnih nedelja na kakvim malim volumenima je skakao DOW. Sad se malo pojacala prodaja, i eto belaja.
Mada... nista se ovde ne zna!

jel može izvor za celu vest...

Ameri krenuli zeleno... odmah se i Evropa zazelenela!
A rezultati su im shit!
E neka mi neko to objasni!

Ma ko te pita, vidis da je razum odavno prestao da vlada. Nadajmo se samo da ce se deo cirkusa preneti i na nas.

Pa Citi je na liniji ocekivanja koliko se secam. Credit Suisse je apgrejdovao McDonald i farmaceute a uz to, izbori su u Masacusetsu pa se nadaju da ce republikanci da dobiju jer reforma zdravstva moze da poveca deficit. :D
Ma, iako ne bude tako ameri ce naci neki razlog za reli! Btw, danas je i dolar skocio a juro pao!

Evo ga opet bunar na zapadu.

jebali smo jeza u ledja! sutra

Uf, sad sam tek video svukose ga posteno dole...
Da vidimo da li vazi ona:
Kad dow raste, Belex pada - kad dow pada, Belex ponire...

ivane pu pu nemoj da malerise~! da se kladimo da sutra ko bude kupio u ponedeljak ce imati 10% zarade! :D

Imacemo 10% manje zivaca.

Bank of america je juce imao obim najveci od apgrejdovanja! 150% vise od tromesecnog preseka. :) Da ne kazem da je cena pipalla 7,7% u minus! Slicna prica i kod JP Morgana!
Nervoza se prenela i s druge strane tihog okeana. Nema znacajnije berze a da nije u znacajnijem minusu! Bice veselo otvaranje berze u nas Srba!

AMERIČKO TRŽIŠTE
Wall Street: Obamina najava srušila indekse najoštrije u tri mjeseca
Autor/izvor: SEEbiz
NEW YORK - Barack Obama žestoko je srušio indekse na Wall Streetom najavom oštrije regulative za financijske institucije.

Dow Jones srušio se 2 posto, na 10.398,99 bodova, S&P 500 oslabio je 1,9 posto, na 1.116,47 bodova dok je Nasdaq spušten 1,1 posto, na 2.265,70 bodova. Bio je to najteži dnevni pad u gotovo tri mjeseca.

Predloženom regulativom bi se zabranilo bankama da posjeduju, sponzotriraju ili investiraju u hedge fondove za tzv. proprietary trading (trgovanje za vlastiti račun). Ta trgovina kada kompanija koristi vlastiti novac za klađenje na tržištu bila je jedan od većih izvora zarade za neke od najvažnijih banaka.

Financijske dionice bile su zato najveći dnevni gubitnici. Bank of America koja je prošle godine preuzela Merrill Lynch, potonula je 6,2 posto, na 15,47 dolara. Morgan Stanley, najveća svjetska brokerska kuća, srezana je 4,3 posto, na 29,34 bodova. Goldman Sachs spušten je 4,1 posto bez obzira na rehzultate četvrtog kvartala koji su bili znato iznad očekivanja analitičara. Najveći gubitrnik u ovom društvu bio je JPMorgan koji se strmoglavio 6,6 posto, što je njegov najveći dnevni pad u osam mjeseci. Citigroup se spustio 5,5 posto.

O razmjerima rasprodaje dovoljno će reći podatak kako je indesks straha VIX uzletio 19 posto, na 22,26 bodova zobgpovećanje potražnje za opcijama zaštite od daljnjih gubitaka.

Jel imate neki komentar za ovo???



Prilično zastrašujuće. E sad, da li će se nastaviti sledeće nedelje i kakav će uticaj imati na našu berzicu?

ja bi ovo prokomentarisao kao zaletanje pred probijanje otpora na 1150poena kao sto se deslio na 1040 poena pa je probilo i nastavilo rast! meni bez ozira na ova dva gadna zadnja dana deliuje sveo ovo jos uvek kao rastuci trend! A sledeca nedelja ce pokazati pravu sliku! Jos uvek sam optimista!

Wall Street: Najveći trodnevni pad Dow Jonesa u 10 mjeseci
Autor/izvor: SEEbiz / Hina
http://www.seebiz.eu/sr/berze/wall-street-najveci-trodnevni-pad-dow-jonesa-u-10-mjeseci,66630.html