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Matthew Greenburgh
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Pridružio : 09 Avg 2007
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 |  Naslov: Re: Metthew Greenburgh - Osiguranja u Srbiji  Uto 20 Nov - 9:27 | |
| | odisej :: | | Ovo ispade mnogo gore nego što je i Matthew Greenburgh prognozirao. |
Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha !! Samo to imam da kazem. 
Katastrofa od kompanije je i pokazala da nikome nishta ne vredi. Shta li su oni tripovali ludaci?!
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Italy's Fondaria Is Sole Bidder for Serbia's Second-Largest Insurer DDOR - Media
19 November 2007
SeeNews
BELGRADE (Serbia), November 19 (SeeNews) - Italy's Fondaria has submitted the sole bid in a tender for an 83.3% stake in Serbia's second-largest insurer DDOR owned by the state, privatey-held Serbian news agency Beta reported on Monday.
The deadline for placing binding bids expired at 11 a.m. local time (1000 GMT) on Monday.
The Serbian government offered the majority stake in DDOR for sale in 2006 and the privatisation was planned to be concluded the same year, as 13 companies had shown interest at the time.
There were 17 insurance companies active in Serbia last year. They had an average per capita premium income of 65 euro, compared to 54 euro in 2005.
Insurance firms in Serbia collected 38.3 billion dinars ($717.3 million/490 million euro) in premium revenue last year. The two biggest of them, state-owned insurers Dunav and DDOR, controlled a combined 63.4% share of the Serbian market at the end of 2006.
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Serbs want Fondiaria to raise its bid for DDOR
19 November 2007
Reuters News
BELGRADE, Nov 19 (Reuters) - Serbia's government will give Italy's Fondiaria more time to raise its bid for Serbia's second biggest insurer DDOR before deciding on a sale, Serb officials said on Monday.
Officials told reporters that Fondiaria would have five days to improve its offer or pull out. Belgrade would then consider whether to sign a contract or reject the offer.
Officials declined comment on the bid price, citing a confidentiality agreement with the firm. A source familiar with the talks told Reuters that Fondiaria, the sole bidder, offered 184 million euros ($269.4 million) for a 83.3 percent stake in the insurer.
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UPDATE 2-Serbia asks Fondiaria for more in insurance sale
19 November 2007
Reuters News
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BELGRADE, Nov 19 (Reuters) - Serbia asked Fondiaria on Monday to raise its offer for the country's second biggest insurer, DDOR, in a bid to save what was supposed to be the first major privatisation in the sector.
The fact that the Italian company's bid was the only one, and its pricing at at barely 1.2 times DDOR's annual gross written premium, were seen in financial markets as a vote of no confidence in Serbia's financial sector.
Sources familiar with the talks told Reuters that Fondiaria offered 184 million euros ($269.4 million) for an 83.3 percent stake in the insurer.
"We would have expected at least 2.2-2.3 times the premium to reflect a fast growing market and a 30 percent market share," a senior source in the company told Reuters. "But this is even less then our expected gross written premium for this year."
DDOR's gross written premium was 145 million euros in 2006.
Dragan Djuricin, chairman of accountants Deloitte in Serbia, DDOR's auditors, called it "a bad signal, because DDOR is a good company".
"We are seeing an impact of the global credit crunch. At a time of crisis you don't buy risk and Serbia is a high-risk country," Djuricin told reporters while waiting for official word on the bid's fate.
The government appeared resigned.
"The tender commission is not head over heels with this offer," Slobodan Ilic, state secretary in the Finance Ministry, told reporters. "We will try to find the best possible solution in the next five days."
The news weighed on the stock exchange, bruising the financial sector, with some listed banks and insurers dipping by more than 4.0 percent.
Currency dealers said worse was yet to come.
"This is a clear no-confidence vote and the dinar <EURRSD=> will not be spared. Today, many people refrained from selling euros. We could see a lot of euro buying tomorrow," one dealer said.
Unhappy that just one bid emerged from 11 original potential buyers for unlisted DDOR, the government initially accused financial adviser BNP Paribas of a "bad call" in leading it to believe it would get a good price.
But later, Ilic said that some bidders said they could not meet the high price it expected, and he acknowledged some might not have found DDOR financially attractive.
"Some cited the political situation and the forthcoming Kosovo status settlement process," he added, referring to Serbia's negotiations with its Albanian-majority breakaway province, which demands independence.
When the government launched the tender in May 2006, bids came from a dozen firms including France's Axa , Germany's Allianz , and Belgium's KBC , Swiss Baloise , Greece's National Insurance.
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|  | | mitar
Still learning
Pridružio : 14 Nov 2007
Poruke : 97
| | Naslov: Re: Metthew Greenburgh - Osiguranja u Srbiji Uto 20 Nov - 20:50 | |
| | Matthew Greenburgh :: | | odisej :: | | Ovo ispade mnogo gore nego što je i Matthew Greenburgh prognozirao. |
Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha !! Samo to imam da kazem.
Katastrofa od kompanije je i pokazala da nikome nishta ne vredi. Shta li su oni tripovali ludaci?!
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Italy's Fondaria Is Sole Bidder for Serbia's Second-Largest Insurer DDOR - Media
19 November 2007
SeeNews
BELGRADE (Serbia), November 19 (SeeNews) - Italy's Fondaria has submitted the sole bid in a tender for an 83.3% stake in Serbia's second-largest insurer DDOR owned by the state, privatey-held Serbian news agency Beta reported on Monday.
The deadline for placing binding bids expired at 11 a.m. local time (1000 GMT) on Monday.
The Serbian government offered the majority stake in DDOR for sale in 2006 and the privatisation was planned to be concluded the same year, as 13 companies had shown interest at the time.
There were 17 insurance companies active in Serbia last year. They had an average per capita premium income of 65 euro, compared to 54 euro in 2005.
Insurance firms in Serbia collected 38.3 billion dinars ($717.3 million/490 million euro) in premium revenue last year. The two biggest of them, state-owned insurers Dunav and DDOR, controlled a combined 63.4% share of the Serbian market at the end of 2006.
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Serbs want Fondiaria to raise its bid for DDOR
19 November 2007
Reuters News
BELGRADE, Nov 19 (Reuters) - Serbia's government will give Italy's Fondiaria more time to raise its bid for Serbia's second biggest insurer DDOR before deciding on a sale, Serb officials said on Monday.
Officials told reporters that Fondiaria would have five days to improve its offer or pull out. Belgrade would then consider whether to sign a contract or reject the offer.
Officials declined comment on the bid price, citing a confidentiality agreement with the firm. A source familiar with the talks told Reuters that Fondiaria, the sole bidder, offered 184 million euros ($269.4 million) for a 83.3 percent stake in the insurer.
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UPDATE 2-Serbia asks Fondiaria for more in insurance sale
19 November 2007
Reuters News
(Releads, adds market reaction, quotes, details)
BELGRADE, Nov 19 (Reuters) - Serbia asked Fondiaria on Monday to raise its offer for the country's second biggest insurer, DDOR, in a bid to save what was supposed to be the first major privatisation in the sector.
The fact that the Italian company's bid was the only one, and its pricing at at barely 1.2 times DDOR's annual gross written premium, were seen in financial markets as a vote of no confidence in Serbia's financial sector.
Sources familiar with the talks told Reuters that Fondiaria offered 184 million euros ($269.4 million) for an 83.3 percent stake in the insurer.
"We would have expected at least 2.2-2.3 times the premium to reflect a fast growing market and a 30 percent market share," a senior source in the company told Reuters. "But this is even less then our expected gross written premium for this year."
DDOR's gross written premium was 145 million euros in 2006.
Dragan Djuricin, chairman of accountants Deloitte in Serbia, DDOR's auditors, called it "a bad signal, because DDOR is a good company".
"We are seeing an impact of the global credit crunch. At a time of crisis you don't buy risk and Serbia is a high-risk country," Djuricin told reporters while waiting for official word on the bid's fate.
The government appeared resigned.
"The tender commission is not head over heels with this offer," Slobodan Ilic, state secretary in the Finance Ministry, told reporters. "We will try to find the best possible solution in the next five days."
The news weighed on the stock exchange, bruising the financial sector, with some listed banks and insurers dipping by more than 4.0 percent.
Currency dealers said worse was yet to come.
"This is a clear no-confidence vote and the dinar <EURRSD=> will not be spared. Today, many people refrained from selling euros. We could see a lot of euro buying tomorrow," one dealer said.
Unhappy that just one bid emerged from 11 original potential buyers for unlisted DDOR, the government initially accused financial adviser BNP Paribas of a "bad call" in leading it to believe it would get a good price.
But later, Ilic said that some bidders said they could not meet the high price it expected, and he acknowledged some might not have found DDOR financially attractive.
"Some cited the political situation and the forthcoming Kosovo status settlement process," he added, referring to Serbia's negotiations with its Albanian-majority breakaway province, which demands independence.
When the government launched the tender in May 2006, bids came from a dozen firms including France's Axa , Germany's Allianz , and Belgium's KBC , Swiss Baloise , Greece's National Insurance. |
MG koliko onda vredi AGBN? |
| | | | Posmatrač
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Pridružio : 02 Jun 2007
Poruke : 120
| | Naslov: Re: Metthew Greenburgh - Osiguranja u Srbiji Uto 20 Nov - 21:28 | |
| | mitar :: |
MG koliko onda vredi AGBN? |
To je pitanje. Ako je ddor kanta od 200 mE a kredi banka vredi recimo 40 a takovo 50 mE. Šta ne valja? Nešto ne valja. Možda Vlahovićev komentar od danas. |
| | | | milos86
Vice president
Godina : 22
Pridružio : 20 Maj 2007
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| | Naslov: Re: Metthew Greenburgh - Osiguranja u Srbiji Uto 20 Nov - 21:32 | |
| | ne valja ova decenija, drugo je sve ok |
| | | | Matthew Greenburgh
Expert
Pridružio : 09 Avg 2007
Poruke : 783
| | Naslov: Re: Metthew Greenburgh - Osiguranja u Srbiji Uto 20 Nov - 22:53 | |
| | mitar :: | | MG koliko onda vredi AGBN? |
Ovo smo jedno hiljadu puta do sada prichali:
1) Standalone value: RSD 45k do 55k
2) Transaction value: RSD 60k and above
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| | | | mitar
Still learning
Pridružio : 14 Nov 2007
Poruke : 97
| | Naslov: Re: Metthew Greenburgh - Osiguranja u Srbiji Uto 20 Nov - 23:51 | |
| | Matthew Greenburgh :: | | mitar :: | | MG koliko onda vredi AGBN? |
Ovo smo jedno hiljadu puta do sada prichali:
1) Standalone value: RSD 45k do 55k
2) Transaction value: RSD 60k and above
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He he - DDOR (30% trzista osiguranja) da vredi 200 mil eur a AGBN 400 mil eur - mnogo je kume  |
| | | | Matthew Greenburgh
Expert
Pridružio : 09 Avg 2007
Poruke : 783
| | Naslov: Re: Metthew Greenburgh - Osiguranja u Srbiji Sre 21 Nov - 7:47 | |
| | mitar :: | | He he - DDOR (30% trzista osiguranja) da vredi 200 mil eur a AGBN 400 mil eur - mnogo je kume |
Kog bre osiguranja?? Jel znash ti koji je kvalitet tih 30% fijasko trzishta nezivotnog osiguranja koje DDOR ima?? Uskladi ih sa EU pravilima, pa ce jedini nachin da ne odu u likvidaciju biti da prestanu da pishu nove polise.
DDOR trzishni udeo je ekvivalentan ponderisanju sa 0.
Da pochnemo u startu, AGBN ima 3.5x vishe kapitala od DDOR-a.
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| | | | Karlito Brigante
Don
Pridružio : 23 Maj 2007
Poruke : 38
| | Naslov: Re: Metthew Greenburgh - Osiguranja u Srbiji Pon 26 Nov - 23:20 | |
| Ovom prilikom cestitam MG-u na skoro u euro cent pogodjenoj ceni za DDOR
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| | | | chuka011
Just looking
Pridružio : 17 Nov 2007
Poruke : 39
| | Naslov: Re: Metthew Greenburgh - Osiguranja u Srbiji Uto 27 Nov - 10:20 | |
| I ja se pridruzujem cestitkama Metu. A i jedno pitanje: jel moze quick scan Globos osiguranja? Cisto sad kad (i mi ostali  ) znamo koliko vredi DDOR. |
| | | | Actarus
Just looking
Pridružio : 22 Avg 2007
Poruke : 56
| | Naslov: Re: Metthew Greenburgh - Osiguranja u Srbiji Uto 27 Nov - 10:37 | |
| Lepo, lepo, lično sam zadovoljan razvojem situacije i priključujem se čestitkama Matt-u. Nadam se da će biti u pravu i za AGBN.  |
| | | | Sneki
Beli Mag
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| | Naslov: Re: Metthew Greenburgh - Osiguranja u Srbiji Sre 16 Jan - 12:14 | |
| Croatia osiguranje objavilo rekordan rast premije životnog osiguranja
Croatia osiguranje je tijekom 2007. godine ostvarilo ukupnu zaračunatu premiju u iznosu od 3,1 milijarde kuna i time ostvarila porast premije od 5 posto u odnosu na isto razdoblje prethodne godine, pokazuju preliminarni poslovni rezultati tvrtke objavljeni na portalu Zagrebačke burze. Nominalni porast zaračunate premije u odnosu na prethodnu godinu iznosi 146,7 milijuna kuna.
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| | | | Kobe Bryant
Old member
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| | Naslov: Re: Metthew Greenburgh - Osiguranja u Srbiji Ned 20 Jan - 11:44 | |
| Fondiaria uskoro i službeno vlasnik DDOR-a
Znatniji efekat od kupovine jedne od najvećih domaćih osiguravajućih kuća "Fondiaria sai" očekuje posle tri godine, kada bi, kako su procenili Italijani, trebalo da na uloženi novac ostvare prinos veći od 20 procenata. |
| | | | Matthew Greenburgh
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Pridružio : 09 Avg 2007
Poruke : 783
| | Naslov: Re: Metthew Greenburgh - Osiguranja u Srbiji Pon 28 Jan - 15:29 | |
| 28/01/2008 Sava Re to IPO in May, Unicredit CA-IB selected as advisor, sources says
Sava Re (Pozavarovalnica Sava), the Slovenian insurance company, will launch an initial public offer in May, said a source close to the company.
Unicredit CA-IB, selected as IPO advisor, is expected to finalise the preliminary procedures by early May, the source added. Sava Re is controlled by SOD, the Slovenian Restitution Fund, which owns a 99.9% stake.
“The official announcement for potential investors will be made once the regulator (Securities Market Agency) approves the IPO,” said the source.
A CA-IB insider confirmed that the financial services company will advise Sava Re, stressing that the offer price will be made public after the securities agency gave its consent.
However, before the IPO, Sava Re will undertake a EUR 80m capital increase. A spokesperson at SOD said that the fund will not participate in the capital increase. Following the capital increase, SOD will retain a 25% stake. SOD expects that Slovenian pension funds might want to pour in capital equal to as much as a 50% stake. The rest could be held by small investors, said the spokesperson.
In the first nine months of 2007, Sava Re posted written gross premiums of EUR 90.18m, according to the company’s website.
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| | | | Sneki
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| | Naslov: Re: Metthew Greenburgh - Osiguranja u Srbiji Pon 25 Feb - 10:29 | |
| BERLIN - Najveći europski osiguravatelj u prošlogodišnjem je poslovanju ostvario dobit nakon oporezivanja od gotovo 8,0 milijardi eura, unatoč snažnom padu dobiti u četvrtom tromjesečju, pokazuju u četvrtak objavljeni rezultati poslovanja.
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| | Naslov: Re: Metthew Greenburgh - Osiguranja u Srbiji Ned 22 Jun - 0:25 | |
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Sektor osiguranja u prva tri meseca povećao premiju 17,9%
BEOGRAD - Obim poslovanja sektora osiguranja u Srbiji, meren bilansnom sumom osiguravajućih društava, u prvom tromesečju ove godine iznosi 72,5 milijardi dinara, što je povećanje od 11,5 odsto u odnosu na isti period prošle godine, saopštila je Narodna banka Srbije. |
| | | | Kobe Bryant
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| | Naslov: Re: Metthew Greenburgh - Osiguranja u Srbiji Pet 26 Sep - 8:59 | |
| Srbe kriza jača
Tako je, da podsetimo, Nebojša Divljan, predsednik Udruženja osiguravača Srbije i generalni direktor „Delta Đenerali osiguranja", nedavno ocenio da osiguravajući biznis Srbi neće mnogo trpeti. On je dodao i to da očekuje rast srpskog tržišta osiguranja od 20 odsto u ovoj godini. Prema Divljanovom mišljenju, Srbija ima dobar nadzor osiguravajućeg sektora i životna osiguranja se dobro kontrolišu, plasmani su u zemlji, a moguće je uložiti novac samo u veoma konzervativne hartije od vrednosti, kao što su državne obveznice.
Divljan smatra da će dešavanje sa američkom kompanijom AIG više uticati na tržište hartija od vrednosti u Srbiji, kao i da će pad vrednosti akcija u Srbiji uticati uglavnom na tri velike osiguravajuće kompanije na srpskom tržištu koje imaju portfelje hartija od vrednosti
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| | | | Sneki
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| | Naslov: Re: Metthew Greenburgh - Osiguranja u Srbiji Pon 13 Okt - 21:01 | |
| Apelujemo na državne organe i institucije zadužene za ovu oblast, da preduzmu odgovarajuće mere i uspostave red i jednake uslove za sve učesnike na tržištu. Polako dolazimo na istu tačku, na kojoj se ovo tržište nalazilo pre četiri godine, kada je NBS zbog nelegalnog poslovanja i nepoštovanja obaveza ugasila dvadesetak osiguravajućih kuća. Sve one su, da se podsetimo, zasnivale poslovanje upravo na osiguranju auto-odgovornosti - poručuju iz „Dunava“, velikog osiguravača, koji zajedno sa drugim po veličini - DDOR-om, trpi velike gubitke u tržišnom učešću. Ova dva velika osiguranja u prvih osam meseci ove godine zajedno su pokrivala 49 odsto tržišta auto-osiguranja, a u istom periodu prošle godine čitavih 60 odsto. Njihov pad po broju izdatih polisa u ovom periodu nije zanemarljiv. „Dunav“ je u crvenom čak 13,9 odsto, a „DDOR“ 9,6 odsto. - Tačno je da su „Dunav osiguranje“ i DDOR Novi Sad jedine dve osiguravajuće kuće čiji je portfelj auto-osiguranja u padu. Razlog je u činjenici da se one striktno drže propisa, pre svega u pogledu provizija koje su dozvoljene spoljnoj prodajnoj mreži.
Ove provizije nikada ne prelaze propisani limit. S duge strane, imamo osiguravajuće kuće koje su u poslednjih pet do šest meseci ostvarile nagli rast učešća na tržištu auto-osiguranja, upravo davanjem provizija prodavcima na tehničkim pregledima, čak i preko 40 odsto, što apsolutno nije u skladu sa propisima- tvrde u „Dunav osiguranju“. Već duže vreme gotovo svi osiguravači koji u svom portfelju imaju imaju obavezno autoosiguranje upiru prst u „neke“ osiguravajuće kuće da krše pravila fer igre i daju višestruko veće provizije prodavcima osiguranja u servisima sa tehničkim pregledima, i na taj način ne poštuju pravila tržišne utakmice i dobrog poslovanja.
Krajnji rezultat je šteta za imidž celog osiguravajućeg tržišta koje teškom mukom uspeva da povrati izgubljeno poverenje klijenata posle haosa krajem devedesetih i početkom dvehiljaditih godina. Iste argumente - pad učešća i nelojalnu konkurenciju, ali sa potpuno suprotnih pozicija, kao razloge oštre kritike Udruženja osiguravača naveo je i Zoran Višnjić, generalni direktor „Unika osiguranja“. On je nedavno rekao da starim igračima smeta dolazak novih, jer im opada učešće.
Zaoštravaju se odnosi io na ovom polju...
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